c/p from another site:

Battle of the Bulge?

Well, this is it folks. I am calling it the Battle of the Bulge. This is the final desperate push by Nagra to defeat all hardware emulators. The stakes could not be higher: if they win, no single stand-alone hardware emulator is coming back. If they lose, they have nothing else to throw at us, at least nothing harder than this.

Their tactic is the (expected) timer hash of Map0×57. Map0×57, as most coders know is a convoluted implementation of elliptic curve multiplication (ECC). Timing a standard ECC function is hard enough, but timing a proprietary one is much, much harder - if not impossible.

My plan is to counter this attack with my favourite weapon of choice: statistics.It worked well for us last time, lets hope it works out this time too.

For those who are culturally deprived, the Battle of the Bulge was the last desperate offensive by the Germans, prepared with skill and secrecy, to capture the key strategic city of Bastogne around Christmas of 1944. Greatly outnumbered and outflanked, the allies held the city and the men who survived came to be known as the “Battered Bastards of Bastogne”.

Lets see what the battered, bastard coders can do this time around…wish me luck!

PS. The battle field (MECM0×40) is depicted below.

Code:

00:0100: 99 sec 00:0101: 8A pushcc 00:0102: 9B sei 00:0103: B6 0D lda $0D 00:0105: 88 pusha 00:0106: A4 F7 and #$F7 00:0108: B7 0D sta $0D 00:010A: B6 12 lda $12 00:010C: 88 pusha 00:010D: B6 11 lda $11 00:010F: 88 pusha 00:0110: 13 12 bclr1 $12 00:0112: 9D nop 00:0113: 13 16 bclr1 $16 00:0115: A6 00 lda #$00 00:0117: C7 0B 92 sta $0B92 00:011A: A6 0B lda #$0B 00:011C: C7 0B 93 sta $0B93 00:011F: A6 A2 lda #$A2 00:0121: C7 0B 94 sta $0B94 00:0124: A6 0B lda #$0B 00:0126: C7 0B 95 sta $0B95 00:0129: A6 B2 lda #$B2 00:012B: C7 0B 96 sta $0B96 00:012E: A6 0B lda #$0B 00:0130: C7 0B 97 sta $0B97 00:0133: A6 C2 lda #$C2 00:0135: C7 0B 98 sta $0B98 00:0138: A6 0B lda #$0B 00:013A: C7 0B 99 sta $0B99 00:013D: A6 D2 lda #$D2 00:013F: C7 0B 9A sta $0B9A 00:0142: A6 0B lda #$0B 00:0144: C7 0B 9B sta $0B9B 00:0147: A6 E2 lda #$E2 00:0149: C7 0B 9C sta $0B9C 00:014C: A6 0B lda #$0B 00:014E: C7 0B 9D sta $0B9D 00:0151: A6 F2 lda #$F2 00:0153: C7 0B 9E sta $0B9E 00:0156: A6 02 lda #$02 00:0158: B7 48 sta $48 00:015A: A6 02 lda #$02 00:015C: CD 38 40 jsr $3840 00:015F: A6 0B lda #$0B 00:0161: B7 46 sta RC1 00:0163: A6 93 lda #$93 00:0165: B7 47 sta $47 00:0167: 13 16 bclr1 $16 00:0169: 13 12 bclr1 $12 00:016B: A6 41 lda #$41 00:016D: B7 16 sta $16 00:016F: A6 49 lda #$49 00:0171: B7 12 sta $12 00:0173: A6 FF lda #$FF 00:0175: B7 15 sta $15 00:0177: B7 11 sta $11 00:0179: 3F 14 clr $14 00:017B: 3F 10 clr $10 00:017D: 12 16 bset1 $16 00:017F: 9D nop 00:0180: 12 12 bset1 $12 00:0182: A6 57 lda #$57 00:0184: CD 38 40 jsr $3840 00:0187: 13 16 bclr1 $16 00:0189: 9D nop 00:018A: 13 12 bclr1 $12 00:018C: AD 37 bsr $1C5 00:018E: A6 04 lda #$04 00:0190: B7 47 sta $47 00:0192: A6 00 lda #$00 00:0194: B7 48 sta $48 00:0196: C6 0B 93 lda $0B93 00:0199: B7 4A sta $4A 00:019B: C6 0B 94 lda $0B94 00:019E: B7 4B sta $4B 00:01A0: A6 40 lda #$40 00:01A2: CD 5B E0 jsr Move_A_RC1_to_RC2 00:01A5: B6 14 lda $14 00:01A7: 31 C7 0B 92 sta [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94] 00:01AB: AD 18 bsr $1C5 00:01AD: B6 10 lda $10 00:01AF: 31 C7 0B 92 sta [$0B92:$0B93:$0B94] 00:01B3: 84 popa 00:01B4: B7 11 sta $11 00:01B6: 84 popa 00:01B7: 97 tax 00:01B8: A4 FD and #$FD 00:01BA: B7 12 sta $12 00:01BC: 9F txa 00:01BD: B7 12 sta $12 00:01BF: 84 popa 00:01C0: B7 0D sta $0D 00:01C2: 86 popcc 00:01C3: 98 clc 00:01C4: 87 rtsp 00:01C5: C6 0B 94 lda $0B94 00:01C8: AB 08 add #$08 00:01CA: C7 0B 94 sta $0B94 00:01CD: C6 0B 93 lda $0B93 00:01D0: A9 00 adc #$00 00:01D2: C7 0B 93 sta $0B93 00:01D5: 81 rts

Fab5

c/p from blacklist,coder for pansat.(he was asked questions.it was edited.he repeats the questions then answers them.)

[6:09pm]«@ Blacklist» First
[6:10pm]«@ Blacklist» We have new emulation in progress
[6:10pm]«@ Blacklist» for the new mess from Dicknet
[6:10pm]«@ Blacklist» It will take about more then week or less then 2 weeks[6:10pm]«@ Blacklist» Might be more or less from fallowing statment
[6:11pm]«@ Blacklist» Always have to remember
[6:11pm]«@ Blacklist» FTA will never fail unless If I see that
[6:12pm]«@ Blacklist» and I am sure will tell you all
[6:12pm]«@ Blacklist» but so far we have couple years to go yet
[6:12pm]«@ Blacklist» eighter way within a year it will be known
[6:12pm]«@ Blacklist» If FTA will die or live
[6:13pm]«@ Blacklist» and for Other 2 Manufactor supports are will be
[6:13pm]«@ Blacklist» Same as Pansat quality support
[6:13pm]«@ Blacklist» and will be in my support list
[6:13pm]«@ Blacklist» Brand Names are
[6:13pm]«@ Blacklist» SATOPIA
[6:14pm]«@ Blacklist» and other Brand will be announced little later today
[6:15pm]«@ Blacklist» as of today I am working on 3 different Brands
[6:15pm]«@ Blacklist» Pansat Satopia and Other wich will be known little later
[6:15pm]«@ Blacklist» today
[6:16pm]«@ Blacklist» dont want to announce yet
[6:17pm]«@ Blacklist» Tonight or Tomorrow we will add section for other 2 new brands on Future and Al7bar
[6:18pm]«@ Blacklist» If any other question have please post in main Privates will not be answered
[6:18pm]«@ Blacklist» I am not working aloan
[6:18pm]«@ Blacklist» I work with 8 different coders including me
[6:18pm]« mackem23977 » Blacklist on the bev ECM are you any closer to figuring that out
[6:19pm]«@ Blacklist» For BEV ECM
[6:19pm]«@ Blacklist» we have to finish new emulation in order to see the resuilts
[6:20pm]« krupt » how far are you on the latest dish ECM?
[6:20pm]«@ Blacklist» Both ECM will work with new Emulation!
[6:20pm]«@ Blacklist» BEV or DISH will work with new emulation so it will be working within a same time we are done with new emulation!
[6:21pm]« jake » are the previous satopia code group done ?¿?
[6:22pm]«@ Blacklist» well Satopia group will not deal with the units anymore
[6:22pm]«@ Blacklist» I am taking over them1
[6:22pm]«@ Blacklist» !
[6:23pm]«@ Blacklist» How much coding is not an answer to give its about to be smart and do some extra step wich makes as to create brand new emulation!
[6:23pm]«@ Blacklist» Do you think when you get it it will last long
[6:23pm]«@ Blacklist» for this question
[6:23pm]«@ Blacklist» no one has an answer
[6:23pm]«@ Blacklist» but everyone will be satisfied as they have been before
[6:24pm]«@ Blacklist» If Pansat is out
[6:24pm]«@ Blacklist» then Satopia and all other supported receivers will be out, but for timing when it will be out with in this month for sure!!!!! might be in 1 week or 2 but will be out for sure
[6:25pm]«@ Blacklist» New Emulation will work on stuff that I deal with but can not be responsable for other Brands Name!
[6:25pm]«@ Blacklist» Next Questions Please
[6:26pm]« Elijah » will 2700a and up still be supported?
[6:26pm]«@ Blacklist» Yes 2700 will be supported
[6:27pm]«@ Blacklist» Yes 9200 will have the support what ever possible to be done
[6:27pm]«@ Blacklist» so do you think this will be common? this fight and battle which has been intense for the last while?
[6:28pm]«@ Blacklist» We seen this alot from begining lots of people has been panic specially started going from N1 to N2
[6:28pm]«@ Blacklist» I told people no worries
[6:28pm]«@ Blacklist» some of them didnt believed me.
[6:28pm]«@ Blacklist» Sam situation we have as of today
[6:29pm]«@ Blacklist» all I have to say no worries
[6:29pm]«@ co6219» will 9200 have PVR In Jan
[6:29pm]«@ Blacklist» no Models will stop beeing supported
[6:29pm]«@ Blacklist» only changings are
[6:29pm]«@ diehard» will the support sites change for satopia ?
[6:29pm]«@ Blacklist» will take time to fix this new issue ECM
[6:30pm]«@ Blacklist» and I will support 2 new brands
[6:30pm]«@ Blacklist» those are the changings
[6:30pm]«@ Blacklist» but after 2 weeeks everyone will watch TV as they did almost 4 years
[6:31pm]«@ Blacklist» There is no
[6:31pm]«@ Blacklist» it simply will be adden sections
[6:31pm]«@ Blacklist» on both sites
[6:31pm]«@ Blacklist» AL7bar and Future
[6:31pm]« SHAFTER » what about a rom 102 card will we need one to emu
[6:32pm]«@ Blacklist» what about a rom 102 card will we need one to emu
[6:32pm]«@ Blacklist» we will not talk in public
[6:32pm]«@ Blacklist» about ROM or EEP eighter techincal issues
[6:32pm]«@ Blacklist» You are looking for Picture we are looking for sollution
[6:33pm]«@ Blacklist» are this new changes from DN has anything to do with 118 sat?
[6:33pm]«@ Blacklist» Call me
[6:33pm]«@ Blacklist» will this involve new ways to program or same old loaders? same simple method or more to it?
[6:33pm]«@ Blacklist» tehcnicly nothing will be effected
[6:33pm]«@ Blacklist» same receiver same way
[6:33pm]«@ Blacklist» only inside will be different software
[6:34pm]«@ Blacklist» are pansats capable of full 102 emu?
[6:34pm]«@ Blacklist» Any receivers are
[6:34pm]«@ Blacklist» Most problem
[6:34pm]«@ Blacklist» might give is the memory part
[6:34pm]«@ Blacklist» but we are not close to those issues
[6:34pm]«@ Blacklist» I am NOT working with CNX
[6:35pm]«@ Blacklist» What are your thoughts on whether FTA will live or die?
[6:35pm]«@ Blacklist» It will be known a year before
[6:36pm]«@ Blacklist» will we get a fix for the current dick ecm soon?
[6:36pm]«@ Blacklist» this has been answered
[6:36pm]«@ Blacklist» Yes it will be
[6:36pm]«@ Blacklist» Which receiver would you recommend out of all the boxes your support?
[6:36pm]«@ Blacklist» I will not give out opinions to and users
[6:37pm]«@ Blacklist» wich one to choose
[6:37pm]«@ Blacklist» any one has my name it
[6:37pm]«@ Blacklist» you are safe to get]
[6:37pm]«@ Blacklist» No Temp fix will be unless we get this new emu working proparly
[6:38pm]«@ Blacklist» New changes from DN about 118 has nothing to do with this!
[6:38pm]«@ Blacklist» They are totally different departments
[6:39pm]«@ Blacklist» how can fta die?? ARE YOU DYING???? how is your health?
[6:39pm]«@ Blacklist» funy ibe
[6:39pm]«@ Blacklist» funy one
[6:39pm]«@ Blacklist» FTA wont die
[6:39pm]«@ Blacklist» unless 2 different options might bother
[6:40pm]«@ Blacklist» 1 option I have to keep private
[6:40pm]«@ Blacklist» secound option can be announced
[6:40pm]«@ Blacklist» unless
[6:40pm]«@ Blacklist» DN or BEV speeds up CPU on ROM!
[6:40pm]«@ Blacklist» but DN has to take the chance to do that
[6:40pm]«@ Blacklist» and I dont think so it will happen
[6:41pm]«@ Blacklist» unless they replace with new Receivers, that will make us understand
[6:42pm]«@ Blacklist» END TO FTA , but as of today they will not do that better way of saying they cant they will have financial problems
[6:42pm]«@ Blacklist» For PVR EPG
[6:43pm]«@ Blacklist» I will makesure no bugs will be on it
[6:43pm]«@ Blacklist» will keep an eye on it!
[6:43pm]«@ Blacklist» When will earth ends,?
[6:43pm]«@ Blacklist» I think you are in wrong Chat romm
[6:43pm]«@ Blacklist» room
[6:43pm]«@ b4ugobye» lol
[6:44pm]«@ Blacklist» The good news is
[6:44pm]«@ Blacklist» my group getting 3 times better then before because I add 2 more Brands in my list
[6:44pm]«@ Blacklist» and dealing with more people then before
[6:46pm]«@ Blacklist» SATOPIA has been launched in a Market starting from Jun July, and they have good quality hardwaring thats what i liked about them and softwaring is much easier to deal with
[6:46pm]«@ Blacklist» Opening source code like DVB willKill the all FTA Market
[6:47pm]«@ Blacklist» no one has to change anything to watch new sollution
[6:47pm]«@ Blacklist» just have to be paitents!
[6:47pm]«@ Blacklist» what is the purpose of life?
[6:47pm]«@ Blacklist» lol
[6:47pm]«@ Blacklist» it depents if you are male or female
[6:47pm]«+ Stone1150 » lol
[6:47pm]«@ [-_-]» lmao
[6:48pm]«@ Blacklist» <markdt> I am not Asian
[6:48pm]«@ Blacklist» I am Armenian
6:49pm]«@ Blacklist» everyone will have sollution! after 2 long weeks!
[6:50pm]«@ Blacklist» last few bins have had persistent “scrambled/bad channel” every hour and pixelation - will this ever go away?
[6:50pm]«@ Blacklist» Yes it will!
[6:50pm]«@ Blacklist» does this mean longer waits for pansat bins since you have three brands to do bins for?
[6:51pm]«@ Blacklist» nothing will get changed
[6:51pm]«@ Blacklist» as far as
[6:51pm]«@ Blacklist» timing
[6:51pm]«@ Blacklist» BL- will nfl ticket and similar like tiers work better in the future?
[6:52pm]«@ Blacklist» Hard to say, they might have different provider, but mean time you all know we always fine the way!
[6:53pm]«@ Blacklist» Is there any progress with globecast, irdeto, or other encryptions?
[6:53pm]«@ Blacklist» lol
[6:53pm]«@ Blacklist» didnt I gave out Keys out
[6:53pm]«@ Blacklist» ?
[6:54pm]«@ Blacklist» Globecast Current Active Key! Key : 00 // 7ABA1060C7169B4E35DF11A5543281C0 //
[6:56pm]«@ Blacklist» <iamdrumming> Please when future comes back please report all those on debug section!
[6:56pm]«@ Blacklist» PVR 6000 will not support USB feature!
[6:57pm]«@ Blacklist» for external recording
[6:57pm]«@ Blacklist» what do you think of CNX the hardware software and brains behind it?
[6:57pm]«@ Blacklist» I cant say bad and good about others,
[6:57pm]«@ Blacklist» I am always nutral when it comes to that
[6:58pm]«@ Blacklist» What happend with pansat being sued?
[6:58pm]«@ Blacklist» If I laugh about it, so none of you guys has to worry about it!
[6:58pm]«@ Blacklist» what do you mean by everyone will have solution after 2 weeks? all fta brands or only your brands that you support?
[6:58pm]«@ Blacklist» soon or later
[6:59pm]«@ Blacklist» almost all manufactors will have sollutions
[6:59pm]«@ Blacklist» the differents are how quality is the sollution
[7:00pm]«@ Blacklist» will there ever be an HD box that will work for both B & D that doesn’t require extra hardware adapters?
[7:00pm]«@ Blacklist» Life has so many surpizes,, but as of today technicly not possible!
[7:01pm]«@ Blacklist» How can a person become part of your team?
[7:01pm]«@ Blacklist» Its a hard job
[7:01pm]«@ wiggy» you have to give good head =X
[7:02pm]«@ Blacklist» Will the new bins be larger files, and should I update my 2700 toa 250SM to handle the new emulation?
[7:02pm]«@ Blacklist» [4:02pm] <S1r_William> BL do you know of any hd boxes that will be using the conexant demod chip?
[7:02pm]«@ Blacklist» Well are you gonne look for the bin size or watch TV
[7:02pm]«@ Blacklist» it dont matter large or less
[7:03pm]«@ Blacklist» we will get TV back to people in short time
[7:03pm]«@ Blacklist» BL do you know of any hd boxes that will be using the conexant demod chip?
[7:03pm]«@ Blacklist» I am not sure to be honest
[7:03pm]«@ Blacklist» Blacklist thank you for this update info and happy holidays to u and your family
[7:03pm]«@ Blacklist» Thanks alot!
[7:04pm]«@ Blacklist» isn’t it after three what was the big news?
[7:04pm]«@ Blacklist» TV after 2 weeks
[7:04pm]«@ Blacklist» isnt that big?
[7:04pm]«@ Blacklist» or looking bigger then that
[7:04pm]«@ Blacklist»
[7:05pm]«@ Blacklist» 2 other models will have the quality i have been giving out for 4 years almost
[7:05pm]«@ Blacklist» When will the forums be avaiable again?
[7:06pm]«@ Blacklist» whenever servers dont go down bad/!
[7:06pm]«@ Blacklist» and fix will be out aproxamatly 2 weeks!
[7:06pm]«@ Blacklist» not exact date
[7:07pm]«@ Blacklist» what are the most challenging parts of your job
[7:07pm]«@ Blacklist» I have 2 words to say, FUN and SAD!
[7:10pm]«@ Blacklist» I will make everying clear for all
[7:11pm]«@ Blacklist» in 2 weeks we will get our TV back and mean time there 2 more units that will be added to my list meaning 2 more options for all to choose to be safe!
7:11pm]«@ Blacklist» and for all other question I will be back for it
[7:11pm]«@ Blacklist» Sorry all I have to leave here I have too much stuff waiting for me…………….
[7:11pm]«@ Blacklist» Always be happy because TV will never end might have some breaks on the ay
[7:12pm]«@ Blacklist» way
[7:12pm]«@ Blacklist» but
[7:12pm]«@ Blacklist» it will work eighter way!!!!!
[7:12pm]«@ Blacklist» Bye all for now
[7:12pm]«@ Blacklist» have fun!!!
[7:12pm]«@ Blacklist»

end c/p.

……………………….

So,looks like pansat and others will have full emu soon and ecm hits ill be slow again.blacklist is going to start coding for fta receiver satopia.the other brand is yet to be disclosed.

you can read about the satopia here:

http://www.satopiausa.com/

c/p from another site

Well guys the word is bev might be down for a couple more days. The coders are waiting to see what DN has in store this week before they bother fixing bev. They are also taking this time to try and make us a bit more stable fix. What bev did over the weekend is on Saturday they changed from using mecm40 to mecm60(these have to do with the processing of the video) they are code. A few weeks ago they added a Timer Function, if this wasn’t properly coded in our bins would result in no picture. The timer is a math function, the last few “hits” they have done to us they have also changed the timing on that function. You can think of the timer as a math equation. If you don’t have the right answer in a math equation you get it wrong, well the same theory goes for this. Now yesterday what bev did was they changed back to using mecm40 and once again changed the timing on this math equation.

So just sit tight and as soon as files are ready they will be here. DN will most likely do there change on Wednesday. So please don’t ask when files will be released as soon as they are done they will be here..

FTA=free to air.

Free to air channels are very fun to have,though not many of them are premiums and such,there still very interesting and enjoyable to have.These FTA channels remain up at all times and are not attacked by ecm’s as These channels are not encrypted.

A great starting point is 123w-G10r.

This bird requires a minimum of a 30″ dish.(depending on your location,it may be larger).

This can be determined here:

http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/galaxy10r_ku.html

Use the map to get your DBW strength,and the corresponding chart to the right to determine the dish size required.

You will also need a linear lnb.

So what kind of channels are located on this satellite?

Have a look here:

http://www.lyngsat.com/galaxy10r.html

Note the band info to the right.Scroll down to KU band.(the C band requires a large 6 foot to 12 foot dish,C band is another topic).

As you can see there are some Foreign channels but most are English.We will focus on the English.

You can view an ABC,a FOX,and many RTN (retro tv network) some radio channels and more for some examples.

For some examples of programs and events that can be seen on 123w KU band:

live with Regis and Kelly

Wheel of Fortune

Jeopardy

ABC Primetime Nightline and Good Morning America News

Major league Baseball

Bonanza

The Fugitive

Ironside

Manniz

Streets Of San Francisco

21 Jump Street

Wild Wild West

Hawaii Five-o

The Untouchables

Mission Impossible

Mork & Mindy

Magnum P.I

Perry Mason

Marcus Wlby, MD

Cowboy Up

World News Now

America This Morning

Good Morning America

The View

7 News at noon

Eye for an Eye

The Nanny

Mad About You

Family Ties

Beverly Hillbillies

Get Smart

Hogans Heroes

All My Children

Gomer Pyle, USMC

Little House on the Prairie

One Life to Live

General Hospital

Happy Days

Lucy Show

Andy Griffith Show

Cheers

Reno 911!

Hunter

The A-Team

Cheaters

Cops

Get Smart

Girlfriends

Gunsmoke

Jerry Springer

Seinfeld

South Park

Stone Undercover

Renegade

UFC Wired

Off Beat Cinema (featuring movies)

24

American Dad

American Idol

Bones

Desire

Family Guy

House

King of The Hill

The OC

Prison Brake

The Simpsons

So You Think You Can Dance?

Trading Spouses

The War At Home

Unreliable Sources

Out There TV

And more.If this satellite is for you,then get yourself a dish and linear lnb and enjoy some tv that never goes down.

This is what FTA receivers are made for,and why they are 100% legal to own.any bin file will work at any time ,even factory bins of course as this is their legal purpose.

Enjoy tv that never goes down.FTA.Information the big providers don’t want you to know.

An ecm (electronic counter measure) hit from bev this evening took out all channels from the fta receivers.

After only a couple hours,a coding team calling themselfs “Conaxsat Construct” answered back with a quick fix patch file.The fta receiver conaxsat (CNX) is rapidly gaining more attention, as this is not the first time they have done this “don’t blink or you will miss the ecm” approach.A relatively newer company to the North American market,but already very well established over seas as i understand,and gaining much popularity here,by setting new standards in lower prices and faster releases.

EMU=Emulation.
To emulate or too imitate/copy/act as the cards used in subscribed receivers.If this can be done 100% I can’t think of what they could do at that point that would affect only fta receivers.
But I’m no coder.Perhaps bins never can 100% fully emu a subbed card.I only say this because it hasn’t been done yet,so until then its unknown.

And how much flash rom size does it take to have full emu?
We will just have to wait and see.
But if it did,your fta receiver would not see keys roll anymore I don’t think as it would just think it was a subscribed card.

BUT then is the next question.If this 100% full emu does happen,will the providers then do a card swap?
Can they afford it?
What would stop coders from making a new full emu (with time of course) of the next card?
Time will tell.

Its fun to watch how it plays out,how,if,when coders will do the full emu.

Over the years of being in this hobby,id like to save you allot of time of trial and error by sharing a list of what will provide you the most enjoyable and fun fta experience.First,remember to not enter this with expecting tv all the time for all channels otherwise you WILL be disappointed.Enter your new hobby as just that,a hobby.My list does include basics to keep tv all the time.Forget about being stuck in the rut about brand names with fta receivers this is the worst thing you can do to fully enjoy the hobby,you MUST explore other brands,trust me on this one.Reason one being having at least two different brand name units WILL over time=less down time,as sometimes its others are up while others are still down.Reason number two is other brands have different features/and or quality features some others in same price range do not.

1.A dish 500 pointed at 119/110

2.A dish 500 pointed at 91/82

3.A 30″(minimum,and depending where you live) dish with a linear lnb.point it at 123w G10-r.this bird has many Free To Air English channels.many RTN (retro tv network)for older shows.but many newer ones also.and even movies during the weekend.primarily all best shows are on during prime time. Its fairly basic.and about 16 English channels.but worth having for some completely free tv that never goes down.between this and your pvr recordings,the down times will be MUCH less of a bother to you.

4.A well supported basic receiver.

5.A well supported receiver made by someone else from that of the first receiver.this one should have pvr function. and you should use it ALLOT.

6.A switch/switches to combine them all,so the receiver can view all channels simply by changing them in the guide.

7.a dvd burner to make a hard copy of your pvr recordings.

8.Full vip membership to abadss.com

This is very affordable,and insures you will not run into harmful files you see on some,but not all of course,other sites.Protect your investment.Well worth the small membership fees.A large site with great moderators who will treat you will respect.But will not let the children run lose to waste your time while your leaning either.The owner is a class act,and set’s the forum up nicely for his mods to keep organized so you can find everything quickly.If you haven’t stopped by,please drop in and say hello.

But 3 dishes! that will not work where i am,i have no place to hide that dish farm!

Not to worry,get yourself a good sized dish like 34″-36″ with a motor and invacom lnb.

This is best for even more channels,and cleaner looking.But will have to wait for channel changes as the dish turns to correct bird channel is on.

follow this list as closely as you can afford and your new hobby will be very enjoyable.

Both Bev and DN have updated their dynamic code. Bev’s is currently active on all channels, DN’s is currently active on International Channels/ppv/adult/premium movies. (it will spread to all channels).

The new code uses map 22 (a previously unseen map call), and is also timing this map call (how long does it take to run map 22).

We’re working on it, and will update as more information is available.

info from member-dvbspider of :

Sonysat and Spacestar

(the team who was first with fix last time)

neosat ipro 2000 iks pvr system introduces iks solution.

with a new “dynamic” coding routine introduced from the big 2 providers to help secure their signals,more easily and quickly than before.the neosat ipro team focuses on iks(internet key sharing).by way of hooking the fta receiver to the internet to receive small packets of info which only require dial up if need be so that channels will stay up.at this time its in its early stage of public release.

the neosat ipro 2000 is an advanced fta receiver,with top of the line hardware,its a pvr ready unit which means you can record to an external hard drive with ease.some features include a very nice working PIP (picture in picture)small and 50/50 split screen,advanced searching features and much more. this seems to be the fta receiver to watch. and also has a reasonable price tag.

you can buy yourself one here today: